simply not doable. >> negotiate on the debt ceiling. the president should not negotiate on the debt ceiling. if this budget is part of a negotiation, that's a the wrong strategy. they're saying they won't negotiate on the debt ceiling and they shouldn't because every time -- >> okay, but this is my frustration with that, because i heard that line in december in the run-up to the fiscal cliff talks. when the deal was cut on new year's eve, five minutes before new year's eve, the line was, you know, they did not include a faux long-term extension of the debt ceiling, they did not address sequestration -- >> two months. >> there was business in that. >> and, and, and, instead of extending the bush tax cuts for people under $400,000 for a year so that they would have bargaining leverage now when this comes up, or a couple months when this comes up, they extended it forever -- >> there are two issues which the white house has permitted to get away from it each time there has been a negotiation, the filibuster and the debt ceiling. those two